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shez65 wrote:I love the new online EYLF tool, but I do alot of my day care Obs on a Ipad and its has the latest Adobe, but it can't read the PDF. Has any body got any ideas to getting this programme to work on the ipad.

I am not sure if the adobe reader you download for ipad is the same as the one you download for windows. But did you try the steps mentioned under "Alternative solution if your browser plug-in is not opening these pdf files" in the troubleshoot page? Are you able to open the files that way? what error message do you get? you can try searching adobe forums and see if there is a solution there for ipads.

shez65 wrote:I love the new online EYLF tool, but I do alot of my day care Obs on a Ipad and its has the latest Adobe, but it can't read the PDF. Has any body got any ideas to getting this programme to work on the ipad.

Opening "Online EYLF Tools" on Ipads and Android Devices:

These pdf files used in "Online EYLF Tools" will NOT work with the Adobe Reader for ipads or other mobile devices. The reason being, the free Reader for iOS does not support all features in these files and due to this limitation with these iOS readers, you will not be able to open and edit these Online EYLF tool's pdfs. However, a standard static pdfs will open (like the other worksheet pdfs available under our Printables). Unfortunately, when it comes to these "online eylf tools" files, these are far more advanced pdfs files with scripting in it and will only work with the Adobe reader available for laptops and computers since they have more features to it. You will need to wait until Adobe updates their reader features that they offer for iOS devices. Alternatively, did you try using PDF Expert for iPad? From what I know, PDF expert should give you the option of editing and filling in these files. I am not sure since I havent tried it so I cant guarantee if that will open these files but you can try it if you have that available in your ipad. If that doesn't work, unfortunately the only solution is using laptops or desktops with windows or mac. Let us know if you find anything more..

Dear Grandma when you print the page adjust your printer properties so that it shrinks to fit one page that is what I do

Hi L.A,

Love love love your work and this site!! Have shared site details with other Home Based Educators, my Co-ordinator and a friend who is a Centre Director and the feedback has been fantastic. Congratulations, you have succeeded in making so many people's paperwork load so much lighter.

Hello,
I have tried everything that is on your website to download the EYLF Tools to my Mac computor but no go. I have rang apple support and we were on the line for over an hour doing what you have suggested but we could not get them to download your program. They suggested I ring Adobe which I did but he could not download it either. He said I have all the right Adobe reader on the computor but the problem is to do with your file. Such a shame because they look fantastic and easy to do. Will have to do what I am doing now.
Cheers
Sherry

hi sherry.mcc,

"He said I have all the right Adobe reader on the computor but the problem is to do with your file."

I'm sorry to hear that you are unable to use these files in mac. Usually its an easy way out for tech supports to say that its the file at fault. But dont you think if there is a problem with these files, wouldnt everyone have the same problem? Did you try these steps under "Alternative solution if your browser plug-in is not opening these pdf files" in this page? What Mac version are you having? Do you have windows to try it out with?

During the initial testing before the release, I remember LindyT had some problems in getting these files to open with MAC at first but it was working fine in windows. I wonder if she can shed some lights here..

Sherry

I too am a Mac user and have worked my way around the downloading issues.
Once I get my paperwork done for today I will post you how I do it.

Shouldn't be too long

Ok this is how I do it.

Seems long and complicated but it isn't really lol

SITE UPDATE: The following article is now available for Early Childhood Professionals:

Name of the Article: Learning Story – How to write Learning Stories

Article Description: Learn how to write a Learning Story, Learning Stories examples and templates, What is a Learning Story, Analysis of Learning, Extension of Learning, Linking to EYLF, Adding Group Learning Stories to Individual Child Portfolios or Folders, How Many Learning Stories, completing a learning story, Learning Story samples and more..

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Hi L.A,

Just tried ALL those points, even uninstalled Reader.
Did not make any difference sadly.

LindyT wrote:Hi L.A,

Just tried ALL those points, even uninstalled Reader.
Did not make any difference sadly.

Hey Lindy,

I just found something interesting from Adobe site. It appears that there is a known compatibility problem with Adobe reader plug-in and Acrobat plug-in with Safari 5.1 browser that shipped with Mac OS X 10.7 and for 10.6. Apparently, these plug-ins can render basic pdfs but it doesn't function as expected for LiveCycle and Acrobat workflows (like the ones used for Online EYLF Tools). So now it makes sense on why Mac users are having problems with these "Online EYLF Tools". Here is the link: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/908/cpsid_90885.html

So as stated in Adobe site itself, it appears that the only work around for this issue is:

1) to download the file and open it directly using the Adobe Reader (similar to the way you are doing it now).
2) Continue to use Safari 5.0.x and Mac OS X 10.6.
3) Download the Firefox plugin from LABs and use Firefox.
4) Use desktop virtualization technology such as Citrix to allow applications to run in a controlled environment where the Safari browser will not be upgraded to version 5.1.

So I am afraid there is no other way until Adobe or Safari fixes this in the future. This issue is only with the plug-ins for Mac and thats why you are able to open these files directly from Adobe Reader. Hope this makes sense now..

So basically I should stop trying lol

At least we have a way to make it work.
Not like everyone else but working still the same.

OMG I downloaded Firefox and it works!!

ty ty ty

THANK-YOU so much for making daycare workers lives a little more easier!!!
It is wonderful to beable just to click and write a few things and the program is done!

L.A wrote:,
OSHC Documentations:

1) Do you prefer having a weekly or daily curriculum plan?
2) What are the areas you have set up within your OOSH setting? For e.g. "Book Area, Quiet Space, Construction, Creative Play, Art N Craft" etc..
3) Do you have to do child observations?
4) With the "Input Keys" in other documentations from the online tools, which of those do you think won't be necessary?
5) Please provide brief details of the current program you are using now, so I can get an idea of what you are using.
6) If anybody would be able to upload a sample of your current program template it would be very helpful! (Don't worry, I'm not going to copy it's just so I can get a better idea).

Hi Everyone,

Since a few of you have asked and waiting for OOSH curriculum plan templates, recently I had requested for those of you working in an OOSH setting to provide me with a few answers to the questions, so I understand your needs and design a template for you. I had asked this in my post a few days ago and so far I have only received one reply. I am very disappointed to see that although some of you have requested and waiting for these templates to be released, no one is willing to support or share ideas. Please understand that I don’t work in an OOSH setting and I was thinking of creating these documentations only due to requests but if I'm not going to receive support from you in return then I don’t see a point in me doing it. Creating documentation for online tools does take a lot of time and effort and I was hoping to get more thoughts and ideas from those of you working in OOSH. If you don't want to answer on the forum and if you want to keep your ideas confidential, then feel free to pm me instead (PM will be available for user who have made 3 posts or more)… I am just hoping for more support from you than what I have received thus far so I can try and make this available when releasing the next version of these Online Tools.

Cheers ,
L.A

L.A. I have answered them the best I can as I am only new to doing ASC I am not sure what to do really :/ ..

1) Do you prefer having a weekly or daily curriculum plan? I like weekly planning that way the children(and parents) will know what will be on offer

2) What are the areas you have set up within your OOSH setting? For e.g. "Book Area, Quiet Space, Construction, Creative Play, Art N Craft" etc.. All of those and I was thinking of havinga 'homework' table for any of the older children.

3) Do you have to do child observations? I believe I will

4) With the "Input Keys" in other documentations from the online tools, which of those do you think won't be necessary? no idea!! :/

5) Please provide brief details of the current program you are using now, so I can get an idea of what you are using. I don't have one as of yet only new to all this

6) If anybody would be able to upload a sample of your current program template it would be very helpful! (Don't worry, I'm not going to copy it's just so I can get a better idea).

I'm just about in tears! I've started using these on-line documents and I love them and everyone else at my new centre loves them. But I can only open them on one computer and it isn't the one I get when I'm programming. I can use them at home if I save the PDFs but I can't even do that here.
Is there anyway they can be accessed in Word Format?